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[SOLVED] Irrigated grassland has no penalty under despotism

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 7:27 pm
by sa2304
Freeciv help says:
* Each worked tile that gives more than 2 Food, Shield, or Trade will suffer a -1 penalty, unless the city working it is celebrating. (Cities below size 3 will not celebrate.)
I have Despotism, but citizen gets 3 food from Grassland with Irrigation. City does not celebrate. Is this a bug in Freeciv or ruleset?
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Funny that I found an opposite question in Freeciv FAQ:
https://github.com/freeciv/freeciv/blob ... 0b/doc/FAQ
- 1.10 My irrigated grassland produces only 2 food. Is this a bug?

No, it isn't. It's a feature. Your government is probably despotism,
which has a -1 output whenever a tile produces more than 2 units of
food/production/trade. You should change your government (see
Government) to get rid of this penalty.
I play Freeciv-3.2.0-win64-10-client-gtk3.22

Re: Bug? Irrigated grassland has no penalty under despotism

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2025 6:21 am
by cazfi
Might be another symptom of https://redmine.freeciv.org/issues/1639

Can you attach a savegame where this can be reproduced/seen?

Re: Bug? Irrigated grassland has no penalty under despotism

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2025 11:05 am
by sa2304
Yes, there it is
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Forum does not accept .zst files, so I zipped it.

City called Pachakamaq
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Re: Bug? Irrigated grassland has no penalty under despotism

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 5:46 am
by cazfi
You have Pyramids, and in civ2civ3 ruleset it disables the penalty.

From the Pyramids help:
Under Despotism or Tribal governments, the Pyramids cancel the penalty to worked tiles with output greater than 2 (for all kinds of output), as if all your cities were always celebrating.

Re: Bug? Irrigated grassland has no penalty under despotism

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2025 8:52 am
by sa2304
Oh, thanks, that is wonderful to know! I started new game and built Pyramids in first city - woo-hoo!
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