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peaceful starting era? early alternative to enable_nuke?
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:43 am
by yuh
hi,
i like a long peaceful era in the begining of the game. is there a way to restrict the building of aggressive units to some wonder the way nukes are only available when Manhattan Project has been built by one nation? i don't care too much about nukes, anyway, so as a workaround i just could define all of the aggressive units being "nukes". i tend to see Adam Smith's Trading Co. being a good candidate for original sin and fall of man, so making it enable_nuke, then. but maybe there's a more direct way to achieve what i intend to do?
Re: peaceful starting era? early alternative to enable_nuke?
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:53 am
by Dino the Dinosore
Since you're going to have to do a custom ruleset anyway, you might as well make a new wonder that enables the Enable_Nuke effect, say "War College", and use that instead of Adam's. Or just rename "Manhattan Project" to "War College" and change its tech requirements. The Enable_Nuke effect workaround may be the only way to do what you want (as of 3.0). What you really want is a requirement vector for individual units in units.ruleset, like
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[unit_cavalry]
name = _("Cavalry")
class = "Land"
reqs = {
"type", "name", "range", "survives"
"Building","War College","World", TRUE
"Tech", "Tactics", "Player", TRUE
}
...
But currently the only requirements you can do for units are
tech_req = required advance, names from techs.ruleset
impr_req = required city improvement, names from buildings.ruleset
Also, the AI may not deal with this very well and it may become very easy to win all the time.
Re: peaceful starting era? early alternative to enable_nuke?
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:35 am
by yuh
thanks for your answer. probably you're right and winning would be too easy ...
Re: peaceful starting era? early alternative to enable_nuke?
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:11 pm
by Corbeau
yuh wrote:hi,
i like a long peaceful era in the begining of the game. is there a way to restrict the building of aggressive units to some wonder the way nukes are only available when Manhattan Project has been built by one nation? i don't care too much about nukes, anyway, so as a workaround i just could define all of the aggressive units being "nukes". i tend to see Adam Smith's Trading Co. being a good candidate for original sin and fall of man, so making it enable_nuke, then. but maybe there's a more direct way to achieve what i intend to do?
You can simply delay or completely remove early units. For delaying, go into units.ruleset and change the tech requirements for units.
Re: peaceful starting era? early alternative to enable_nuke?
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:31 pm
by yuh
Corbeau wrote:
You can simply delay or completely remove early units. For delaying, go into units.ruleset and change the tech requirements for units.
yes, i could do so. but that would be even more unfair: whoever gets to any of that required techs first could easily take several cities of neighbouring nations. enable_nuke would be fairer, because every nation could start building aggressive units the same turn.
i once tested a move_rate of zero for warriors, making them only defensive, but that was somehow disappointing, though i can't remember why. i guess, ai woud not want to build any of them ...
Re: peaceful starting era? early alternative to enable_nuke?
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
by cazfi
yuh wrote:yes, i could do so. but that would be even more unfair: whoever gets to any of that required techs first could easily take several cities of neighbouring nations. enable_nuke would be fairer, because every nation could start building aggressive units the same turn.
What if you allow building the units in advance (so that everyone would have them by the time you allow aggression) but disallow Attacking with them - that's action enabler controlled in 3.0 already.