"Zoltan and Wieder are considered the best players in LT. They are both banned. Zoltan because he did stuff he really shouldn't have, Wieedr because... he annoyed the FCW admin by giving suggestions how to ma games better. I am maybe not in the top 3, but I guess I'm among the top 10% and I was banned during an interesting in-game situation, neighbouring the admin, under a formal reason of distributing the illegally obtained map that half the players already had."Corbeau wrote:This reads like "LT.net is fine with cheating", but I think Wieder meant that there are no such cheating problems on LT.netwieder wrote:4) longturn.net has no problem with cheating opposed to what Lexxie was implying
Anyway, I didn't accuse anyone of cheating. I simply listed events that undoubtedly happened:
1. A player tore apart the admin and its allies by a quick and early horse attack
2. The admin-observer discussed in-game diplomacy while being an admin-observer demanding that the player stops his war
3. The player was then banned
4. Immediately after that a new feature penalizing early discovery of Horse Riding was introduced
I'll let everybody make their own conclusions.
I'll just state some more facts: Zoltan and Wieder are considered the best players in LT. They are both banned. Zoltan because he did stuff he really shouldn't have, Wieedr because... he annoyed the FCW admin by giving suggestions how to ma games better. I am maybe not in the top 3, but I guess I'm among the top 10% and I was banned during an interesting in-game situation, neighbouring the admin, under a formal reason of distributing the illegally obtained map that half the players already had.
Again, I'll let everybody make their own conclusions.
As for cheating accusations, if the reason was that someone was playing more nations, I am inclined to doubting it. Using VPNs or stuff like that is as far from being a "proof" as possible and I'm pretty sure FrecivWeb is not tracking other people's computers in a way that couldn't be intercepted by simply using private/incognito window or stuff like that.
And actually the only mistake I'm making right now is prolonging this discussion and diverging attention from really constructive efforts of creating and playing new games. LT48 is starting in a day or three, several players said they love the new ruleset so I invite everybody to drop by and have a look. So I'll stop with this now. I rest my case because I have no further info to share and I'm done repeating.
For anyone interested the "stuff" Zoltan did was hack and cheat. He openly admitted it on more than one occassion. He went so far as to see he sees FCW as a playground for hackers, cheating is fair game, part of the game. He was Admin of the sole FCW instance at the time but this spurred myself, Lexxie and others to create the new instance Freecivweb.org. Meanwhile Corbeau and Wieder continued to support Zoltan and as far as I know are friendly and cooperative with him to this day. I'd be vary wary of joining any game where Zoltan is in any way involved. They are hacker-friendly, apparently.