Schwartz wrote:Before starting, I want to say thank you to Andreas for taking the time to consider my complaint.
I wouldn't really say that he "took the time".
1. Corbeau's choice to publish the chat transcript is itself ethically problematic and more importantly I also believe symptomatic.
Actually, if this was real life, the complaint would go to a court, there would be hearing, transcripts would be demanded and possibly made public. However, we don't have the court here, the only "court" is "public opinion" - if anyone is actually interested in this and reading this - so handing the
information to this "court" is basically the only decent thing to do. The fact that you are objecting to
facts being published also reveals things about you and your stance in all this. Some journalist you are.
The consensus about Corbeau is more or less that he is an intelligent player who expends his talents on game mechanic exploits and psychological ploys, especially gaslighting and trolling.
Lovely word, "concensus". You either don't know what it means (which I doubt), or you are directly lying about "having the concensus" or are manipulating and misinterpreting the "information" you received.
Basically, I also asked around, shared information what I had and also received a "concensus" that you are an idiot.
So stop talking about "concensus".
I think it’s characteristic that Corbeau not only threatened to publish the transcript of our conversation, not only that he followed through on his threat,
I never threatened to publish them. Where did I do that? I went out and published it because it was the right thing to do, but I never talked about it anywhere.
but that he is trying to focus his defense upon the lack of specifics in my complaint when in fact my complaint is about his style, both in the game and behind the scenes through chat. The irony, then, is that he is only confirming the essence of my complaint.
Yes, this thing is called "self fulfilling prophecy". I'm sure you've heard of the phrase. If you come to a man who is sitting calmly and repeat to him twenty times "You get annoyed so easily, don't be annoyed", guess what happens.
2. On the specific issue about embassies, the transcript as it currently stands needs to be synchronized with in-game events to really understand the play-by-play and why my tone therein shifts from friendly to staunch. I would really need to reconstruct events to do that.
Please reconstruct events. And after you do that, I will gladly reconstruct you and your "case".
The essence, though, has been stated by Wieder in the forum: thrusting an embassy upon a player would normally be considered an act of war in some situations. Although initially I tried to still work out something with him, I ultimately decided this was one such situation given my own relative weakness vis-a-vis Corbeau, not so much in terms of my position within the game as my lack of experience versus his wealth of it combined with his reputation.
So many words, so little essence. To the point:
Did you agree to an embassy?
Yes, you did.
Did you at any moment object to me creating an embassy?
No, you didn't.
End of story.
Like I told you afterwards,
if at any moment you showed doubt, hinted any kind of hesitation, I would have turned my diplomat westward and sent it to Dramon because, get this:
he invited me to! However, I was an idiot, I had an idiotic reason to go to you and I made the mistake that I paid dearly.
Because you agreed to me creating an embassy.
I'm sorry that you still have no clue about the game you are playing and that you misunderstood what an "embassy" means. Hopefully, now you have learned. I am yet to hope that you will learn about all the consequences and what it actually means in the game, but that is a bit more difficult because it requires intelligence and healthy perception.
And guess what: Dramon is more experienced and I reached a deal with him almost instantly. So, instead of trying to find out what it is that you missed or did wrong, you spread the blame everywhere else. Cool story, bro, but stop wasting other poeple's time.
3. Obviously insofar as there is a “Corbeau debate”, people’s feelings about my complaint almost certainly revolve around whether they consider his style of playing fundamentally appropriate or inappropriate.
... or their perception of my style of playing is slightly different than yours.
For those who see it as appropriate, there is a clear and comprehensible logic, which can be boiled down to: Corbeau is just doing what he can to win, like anyone else would or should. If there is a flaw in, say, how embassies operate, then Corbeau is all the better player for exploiting it. If a player isn’t tough or sharp enough to deal with his style of communication, then they aren’t fit to win anyway. Corbeau himself put it aptly: “Trolling is a tool.”
This is a clear marker that you are a manipulator. This four-word sentence was a part of a thousand word discussion with another person, that discussion had a drastically different tone and was revolving about completely different subjects. I strongly dislike the phrase "taken out of context", but this was so violently ripped out of the whole set of meanings that gave it a different tone that I'd have to spend a lot more words to explain it, which would be pointless right now.
Furthermore, you are now connecting that sentence and "trolling" with a discussion that has absolutely nothing to do with trolling. I published a transcript. Where is my trolling? Please point out my sentences there that can be understood as trolling. I dare you.
As for the rest of the rant about the "expliotative Corbeau-esque style of play", I will repeat what I told you twice already: you need help. Or you need to simply sit down, learn some shit and maybe, when you do, you'll start being embarrassed about everything you spewed out so publicly. I don't really understand why I am spending so much time on this, your words aren't a description of me, they are simply a signature of your flawed perception of the world and ignorance of one of its small corners, namely, this community.
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