Re: Freeciv Longturn Web - The gossip section
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:30 pm
In our G20 you also posted a link to Moore's discord channel (which is decidedly critical of Lexxieserver) in a way that it would be seen as the official discord for Lexxieserver, which is what we were on and where it was posted. You should've known this is something we would take offense to and that you were not exactly on thick ice. Along with all the other things you've done and the times you HAVE been hostile.Corbeau wrote:Huh, interesting. What happened to "truth, the WHOLE truth" etc.?
Let us begin.
The fact that you're not aware that it begun long, LONG before G17 shows how little you know. About a year-long abusive behaviour, lies, deceits, harassment by Lexxie. It was personal and it was through private channels. Moore had her blocked for a while because she was too much to handle (somewhere very roughly between game 10 and 15). Zoltan was actually doing ALL the work for FCW for a time and then he flipped because of her harassment, stubbornness and disrespect for HIS time. I'm not defending his actions, only shedding a bit different light on it.Canik wrote:Then, FCW.. G17? happened. I think it was G17.
I did mention there was drama before that, it was the line literally right before the one you quoted:
" I listened and learned all I could from both sides and would try to keep a neutral objectivity when there was drama between them.
Then, FCW.. G17? happened. I think it was G17."
Yeah, there was drama between them prior to G17 but G17 is when it flew off the handle. And the dramas before that were not one-sided from what I saw and I saw quite a bit. What says a lot is that even you won't defend Zoltan's actions of that time. As you rightfully should not. There are a thousand different ways he could've handled it a thousand times better.
Again, you don't know the background. This was a part of an issue of Lexxie being online literally 24 hours a day and nobody being able to make any moves against her without her watching and reacting. She gave excuses but, bottom line, refused to go offline so that others can play a turn-based game, and not a real-time strategy, which longturn is supposed to be.Anyway, in that game Zoltan and Moore both took advantage of exploits and hacks. Zoltan literally wrote up a quick script to open and close the trade window 5 times a second, targetting Lexxie so she could not do anything.
So he made her sign off.
[ color=#4000BF] There was that too. I am aware of the background. There was no rule against being online too much. Zoltan did abuse his admin to force her to log off though. [/color]
Yes, because the game was full of holes that Lexxie refused to patch. Not mid-game. In general.In response to backlash against this and other things that people questioned, Zoltan said essentially FCW was supposed to be a playground for hackers.
She couldn't patch them then. She is patching and fixing more than Zoltan ever would've now though.
This, my young one, is a standard exploit known forever. This is why in some (maybe all?) LT games the partisan thing is disabled completely. Lexxie refused to do this "because the MP ruleset is sacred and should not be meddled with by amateurs". So, if it's possible and known, you'd be a fool not to use it.Moore also took advantage of an exploit to gain partisans switching back and forth with allied cities. And in the past had shared his view with me that everyone cheats if they can, so it's ok.
Was Lexxie GM of that game? Either way, I will concede the point that using that exploit was maybe not such a terrible thing. Still, he has also used map hacks, made multis and had a very liberal attitude towards cheating.
Nah, they simply stopped taking the game seriously. Like I said, I'm not defending anybody, Zoltan *was* naughty and I'm trying to dissuade him from it, but you don't know the whole story. Hell, the personal chats I could share...This along with other things of questionable ethics Zoltan/Moore and company were doing.. I lost faith in the integrity game and could no longer stomach the vindictive obsession they had against Lexxie that they prioritized over all else.
If they were taking messing with Lexxie and much of the community along with her more seriously than FCW's integrity and health then, same difference. They were still prioritizing that over FCW. Zoltan acted wildly improperly for an Admin. Lexxie, I literally just argued with her before this post and it got heated for a moment but she is still more restrained where it counts, in actions, if not words, and less of a dictator than Zoltan was. She's getting a lot more good things done as well. She's an upgrade, easy.
Incorrect. She unleashed her full schizoid fury against everybody and everything who disagreed with her managing of rulesets. Wieder, of all people, was banned from her Discord server because he wouldn't stop arguing about rulesets. If anyone is known for holding a calm and reasonable discussion, it's Wieder. And he got banned because... Still not sure I'm able to repeat Lexxie's "reasoning".Lexxie is not Gandi, at times she got nasty too but her every move wasn't centered around vindictiveness.
Weider may be calm in tone but he could be very disruptive. Whether it's intentional or not, I thought it was unintentional for a long time. I try not to assume the worst, I am not much for conspiracy theories but intentional or not, he could be disruptive and annoying. When the G17 crisis happened he derailed talk about Zoltan hacking practically spamming his views on "RTSing", when asked to stop, he argues. I can see how Lexxie would think it 's passive-aggressive psyops stuff. And there are so many examples like that, she is not alone in wanting Weider's "contributions" to stop.
... and her relentless grip over its entirety.She held the integrity and betterment of FCW a higher priority.
A looser grip than Zoltan.
Do go on, then.The rest are cheaters and trolls. They have made many attacks against our new server as we tried to establish it, an actual hack attack by Zoltan, them flooding them game with multis. They posted hacks, data to ruin G18, the list goes on and on.
And now the fun part!About Corbeau's Banning specifically:
I did not hack.I saw it all. I do not want people banned but Corbeau and his friends have EARNED it. They were warned, they were given chances, they hacked,
I did not make multis.made multis,
Ay, therein lies the rub. So this is a sin, informing people in the in-game chat that a new game is starting there-and-then, after they asked when the new game is starting? If that is a sin, I am guilty as charged.continued linking to other sites
Nope. I haven't spoken a word to Lexxie in months. Literally. Maybe exchanged a line or two about very technical matters (in the form of question/answer), but that was literally a line or two. I did have some arguments with Andreas on Discord when I said that he is a neo-nazi after he tried to justify Anders Breivik's actions. Surprise, a day later I was banned from the game! And I wasn't even sure if that was because of that comment or because I literally answer a player's question with "A new game is starting in a week, more info here-and-here". Both seemed equally berserk.and were in general hostile.
So, basically, me "being generally hostile" is a lie, at least when it concerns the last few months.
Look - anyone who is a normal person with a little commonsense and no ill-intent, they have no fear of being banned. When Lexxie starts banning people like that, I'll revolt to. This is NOT the case here.