Corbeau wrote:pungtryne wrote:Yes, actually, all players could agree on turn 1 to ally, and this way, all would win peacefully.
You're not making sense. Firstly, what is "win"? Secondly, all can't "win" in any sense. Someone will alwys have more cities, territory, population, points and/or will build a spaceship.
Win is victory as defined by the game. This is either to first land spaceship on alpha centauri, or to be alone, or allied to, everyone left in the game. If the end year of the game comes and none of these conditions are met, the player with most points will be declared winner.
However this is a very unlikely scenario, and probably not what most people want.
And what is it that most people want?
From my experience with the game, there are a considerable amount that don't want to cooperate with anyone, and a significant amount that want to cooperate some. I don't think anyone wants to ally every single person on the map and send out 50+ diplomats to everyone.
No one with ambitions of staying in the game can choose to play peacefully. Being pacifist and having no defence will just get way too tempting for someone else. A country defending against an invasion is not peacefull, but in war.
Pacifism has nothing to do with non-aggression. You can be peaceful and in war, simply because you were attacked and you choose not to roll over and die.
I think we are talking about different things and therefore misunderstanding. You are talking about peacefull intentions, while I'm talking about the state of peacefullnes. These are not the same thing. Being in a state of peacefullness implies no war. The state of peacefullness and war is opposites like hot and cold. A peacefull nation can't be in war, because if it's in war even just for defending itself, it's no longer peacefull. There is a war taking place in that country! But of course, a country in war can wish for peace.
A country being invaded can choose to defend, or they can take the pacifist approach of non-violence. Pacifism is technicalily not non-agression but non-violence is pretty close, and I would think some adherents to eastern philosophies might call agression and violence the same thing.