Fair-play and multi-accounting

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Re: Fair-play and multi-accounting

Postby louis94 » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:03 pm

pungtryne wrote:About the IPs. Without knowing the exact laws on this, an IP is (in some, but probably not all cases) considered private data like your credit card info and personal ID number. An organization or business, at least in EU, can't just post their users IPs. At least not without consent, and I'm unsure if that's possible even.

You are right. The IP address is considered private information, at least in the EU (and therefore in Germany, where Freeciv-web is hosted). Even recording the IPs without prior user consent is illegal. A privacy policy is needed in any case (even if no personal information is collected). IIRC, the information collected must be limited to what is strictly necessary in order to run the service. And I think stronger laws are on the way.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer.

Louis

PS: Freeciv-web may also not use cookies (or HTML5 storage, which is the same as far as the law is concerned) without prior user consent.

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Re: Fair-play and multi-accounting

Postby Corbeau » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:23 pm

So you're saying that this is illegal?

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Re: Fair-play and multi-accounting

Postby AndreasR » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:37 pm

No, it's not illegal. Freeciv-web does not store Personally identifiable information.

However, I can remove storage of IP addresses, if people don't want it. This means that there are no means to ban users by IP address, though.

By the way http://meta.freeciv.org/ also shares IP/hostnames of users.

Pull-requests to improve Freeciv-web compliance for various government regulations are welcome.

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Re: Fair-play and multi-accounting

Postby pungtryne » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:48 pm


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Re: Fair-play and multi-accounting

Postby AndreasR » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:54 pm

Wikipedia states "IP address: (when linked, but not PII by itself in US)".

However, I will remove the storage of IP addresses in Freeciv-web and release it to the production server tomorrow.

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Re: Fair-play and multi-accounting

Postby cazfi » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:21 pm

AndreasR wrote:By the way http://meta.freeciv.org/ also shares IP/hostnames of users.

So it seems. Server addresses user explicitly asks to be made public by asking server to be listed on metaserver, and it's necessary there for the metaserver to function, but player host information is mostly useless. We should not waste horizontal space to it. No matter the legal status, that column should be removed.

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Re: Fair-play and multi-accounting

Postby AndreasR » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:30 pm

cazfi wrote:
AndreasR wrote:By the way http://meta.freeciv.org/ also shares IP/hostnames of users.

So it seems. Server addresses user explicitly asks to be made public by asking server to be listed on metaserver, and it's necessary there for the metaserver to function, but player host information is mostly useless. We should not waste horizontal space to it. No matter the legal status, that column should be removed.


Interestingly, also the Freeciv GTK client shares IP address or hostname of the other players.
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