Arbogast wrote:Civland is dead... Well, R.I.P.
What I don't understand is why there was no warning about it. Davide's decision seems a little unilateral. Whatever...
But isn't there a way of getting all the information stored in Civland to recuperate/restore it somewhere else? Like Here?
There was a lot of good tips there... Sigh...
That's weird. Davide gave no explanations nor warning.
To lose the playing matches sucked, but the worst thing is that we lost the forum section, which contained the whole History of Greatturn and a enormous amount of discussion and ideas about the greatturn/longturn/freeciv concept. Remember that while THIS forum was down, discussions continued in civland.org, home of greatturn.org
If you connect to greatturn.org, now there's a static page in which Davide offers to sell (!) the data of the game.
This is even weirder. I told him many times that greatturn should rely much more on some $ given from the players, in a regular (althou voluntary) basis, and he always refused and/or applied heavy restriction to the idea.
Now, in change, he wants to sell the whole stuff for 180€, something around 140$. Of course it doesn't represent not even a fraction of the whole time/human effort he put in greatturn in these 2 years, but still, let's say I don't find it elegant.
Who will buy the software and the data? I can't think of any one else than the community itself. Now, in the case of the forum, is it fair to sell something community-made to the community? And by the way, what if a private (!) would like to purchase it? Ok, that would be quite weird, but even though, it would infringe some law, I think.
So, Davide, please let's discuss this. I know the community wants to thank you for the effort, and I believe that there could be also some will to thank you with some bucks. But we need some other hero to get pick your data, give it a shape and open it to the community. If he doesn't do it, the community will hardly give the time, effort and $ to thank you. In order to achieve this, data should be given for free. I know the code is in perfect shape so there will be little effort from your side to give the start kick.
If Davide agrees to let the software for free, and some hero appears to relieve him, I would gladly pay the expenses (DVDs/shipping).
Davide, dicci qualcosa!