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[SOLVED] Different starting settings: government and palace

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:48 pm
by Corbeau
Two questions that I couldn't find the answer to elsewhere:

1. Is it possible to set a starting government other than Despotism?

2. Is it possible to prevent the first city built to automatically have a palace? I have disabled "automatic palace" in server settings and even removed it from "global_init_buildings" in game.ruleset, but it is still appearing in the first city I build.

Re: Q: Different starting settings: government and palace

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:02 pm
by Caedo
Re: 1
The (fallback) initial government is declared in nations.ruleset, since starting governments are theoretically defined at the nation level. The supplied rulesets (and the supplied nations) don't make use of that feature though.

Re: 2
The savepalace server setting (which I assume you're referring to) shouldn't have any effect on whether or not the first city contains a palace; it should only come into effect if you lose the city containing the palace (or any other small wonder with the SaveSmallWonder flag).
As for removing the palace from global_init_buildings: Are you using custom nations? If so, do they happen to have the palace in their init_buildings?

Re: Q: Different starting settings: government and palace

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:41 pm
by Corbeau
Ok, nations.ruleset is probably the only file I didn't check :D

As for Palace, all nation rulesets I checked also have

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Re: Q: Different starting settings: government and palace

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:43 am
by Ignatus
The ruleset-specific initial buildings are listed in game.ruleset in options.global_init_buildings (can not contain great wonders). If a building in that list has active savepalace flag, then it appears whenever a civ gets a city after it had none, otherwise only in the first civ's city.

Re: Q: Different starting settings: government and palace

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:17 am
by Corbeau
Can somoeone list all the ways a person can screw up? Make it a joint effort. I'll find a combination that you haven't thought of.

Problem solved. All advice from above was helpful.

Re: [SOLVED] Different starting settings: government and palace

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:46 pm
by Ignatus
By the way, if set sarting government to revolutionary, the players will be able to select preferred government (from available with basic advances) at game start. Also, if you delete the government from nation set, the game will set by default compatibility.default_government from nations.ruleset.

Re: [SOLVED] Different starting settings: government and palace

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:43 am
by Corbeau
Just checking, starting government is about the only thing that can be nation - specific in the game, right?

Re: [SOLVED] Different starting settings: government and palace

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:06 am
by cazfi
Corbeau wrote:Just checking, starting government is about the only thing that can be nation - specific in the game, right?

Starting techs, starting buildings, starting units, trait values. Specific nation can be a requirement in anything that takes requirement vectors. With root_req usage entire tech trees can be nation -specific...