"Simulation" ruleset (2.5) - v1.0 released

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Re: Corbeau's ruleset (2.5) - v1.0 released

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Wahazar wrote:
Corbeau wrote:Actually, the other way round. Upkeep depends on number of cities.
It is very bad idea, in my opinion. You can and up with deadlock: many cities, but none can grow above 16 due to high science upkeep.
What does science have to do with city growth?
Science upkeep should depend on population, not city count (logically, more people, higher cost of education). Unfortunately there is no such option.
I couldn't agree more.
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Re: Corbeau's ruleset (2.5) - v1.0 released

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Corbeau wrote:
Wahazar wrote:...none can grow above 16 due to high science upkeep.
What does science have to do with city growth?
Try guess what 16 size means :) Of course there are other, rather soft science factors limiting city growth (refrigeration, or some advances granting less unhappiness, etc).
But it is a project or already implemented? In your ruleset there is as follows, nothing about population:

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[research]
; Method of paying tech upkeep
; "None"   - no upkeep
; "Basic"  - upkeep is calculated as:
;     <Cost of technology> / tech_upkeep_divider - tech_upkeep_free
; "Cities" - upkeep is calculated like "Basic", but multiplied by number of cities
tech_upkeep_style = "Cities" 
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Re: Corbeau's ruleset (2.5) - v1.0 released

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I said, "I couldn't agree more", not "it's implemented" ;)

As for city size 16, yes, Sanitation and Sewers, but Tech Upkeep is a number and you can set it to be anything you want. Of course it won't be set to cripple your growth.
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Re: Corbeau's ruleset (2.5) - v1.0 released

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Sorry, I was reading your post much too fast, and there was something like "I can't agree anymore" :)
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Corbeau wrote:I said, "I couldn't agree more", not "it's implemented" ;)
First time I even see that idea. It has not been requested (as in: wishlist ticket created): http://www.hostedredmine.com/projects/f ... issues/new
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Re: Corbeau's ruleset (2.5) - v1.0 released

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cazfi wrote:
Corbeau wrote:I said, "I couldn't agree more", not "it's implemented" ;)
First time I even see that idea. It has not been requested (as in: wishlist ticket created): http://www.hostedredmine.com/projects/f ... issues/new
Maybe it would be a good idea to put that information - along with procedure how to actually create said ticket - placed as a sticky in the Wishlist subforum, then?

Because if people who have to power to grant wishes only pay attention to such tickets, and not to the forum, then the Wishlist section is only a shouting chamber deceiving people that posting there actually means something.
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Re: Corbeau's ruleset (2.5) - v1.0 released

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One thing bug me with these expanding city radius: state boundaries remain unchanged...
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They should expand with the city radius.
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Re: Corbeau's ruleset (2.5) - v1.0 released

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There are Warriors with marine flag, and a huge gap until real Marines - this together with automagic unit upgrade, seems to be very annoying.
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Re: Corbeau's ruleset (2.5) - v1.0 released

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Fair point, but I don't agree with "very annoying" (although it is a personal preference). By the time Warriors become obsolete, they will become very irrelevant on all accounts.

Keep in mind that a unit doesn't have to be Marine in order to enter an empty city. And in the age of Musketeers, Warriors become pretty much useless for anything else.
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